Solzhenitsyn:
Oh Happy day! You're doing great, going slow and steady, letting her reach conclusions when she's ready and saying just enough to catalyst her thinking but not too much.
Vannderhoven7:
Evidently
🤣 lol
oh rapture!
today's wt caused my wife's first [jw mind control] epiphany and she didn't hesitate to share upon her discovery.
09/16/2018 | "where are your eyes looking?
Solzhenitsyn:
Oh Happy day! You're doing great, going slow and steady, letting her reach conclusions when she's ready and saying just enough to catalyst her thinking but not too much.
Vannderhoven7:
Evidently
🤣 lol
in the new jwdotorg article about anger:.
get the facts.
“the insight of a man certainly slows down his anger,” says proverbs 19:11. we are wise to gather all the facts before forming a conclusion.
In the new JWdotORG article about anger:
Get the facts. “The insight of a man certainly slows down his anger,” says Proverbs 19:11. We are wise to gather all the facts before forming a conclusion. When we carefully listen to all sides of a matter, we are less likely to feel unjustified anger.—James 1:19.
Except when it comes to those labeled "apostates", which incidentally isn't even a Christian term, appearing nowhere in the New Testament. Aparently this is one area where you don't need to know the other side of the story, just what Mother GB tells you.
Another scripture that JWs apparently have a waiver on when it comes to ex-JWs is 1 Peter 3:15, which mentions being
ready to make a defense before everyone who demands of you a reason for the hope you have
Apostates are just mentally diseased anyway and are dangerous, (i.e. a typical JW is undereducated and ill equipped to defend their beliefs outside their 'safe spaces' of the Hall and door to door where they can run away if need be).
i personally have a very distinct sense of style and fashion which many of the fellow jdubs frown upon.
recently, i was told by a few specially self righteous ones that i looked like a prostitute in a pair of white boots!
a pair of 3 inch heeled, just a little taller than the ankle boots, with skirt that came down to my knees and a black long sleeve shirt that came up to my collarbone.
I was told that I would need to change my dress pants and suit jacket as a matching two-piece suit was mandatory for stage assignments. I just laughed and said, "I don't have one of those." He said, 'Oh, well, okay' and never mentioned it again. Same thing happened with my handlebar mustache with soul patch, told I couldn't have privileges in the congregation while I had it. I said "Show me the scripture and I'll see what I can do" and got the same response. No 'privileges' taken away, never mentioned again. I was mentally in at the time, but I don't think I'd push that envelope nowadays, I just want to stay under the radar for the most part, not give 'cause for stumbling' if it isn't necessary, save it for the important stuff.
the wife got back from the convention, and mentioned one point from the co talk.. he gave the statistic that on average, there are about 780 people baptized every day in the world!
everyone was amazed.. i broke it to her that there used to be a lot more.
i recall giving a talk and at that time there were around 1200/day.
You can recite figures til you're blue in the face and some JWs will still not comprehend. When I pointed these things out, a JW replied to me, 'Well thousands are baptized every week. It's better to think of it by the week'. Seriously. That's the mentality or lack of it we're up against.
the wife got back from the convention, and mentioned one point from the co talk.. he gave the statistic that on average, there are about 780 people baptized every day in the world!
everyone was amazed.. i broke it to her that there used to be a lot more.
i recall giving a talk and at that time there were around 1200/day.
And out of the relatively few adults getting baptized, most that I've seen had contact with or were influenced by JWs when young, just taking longer to get baptized.
the wife got back from the convention, and mentioned one point from the co talk.. he gave the statistic that on average, there are about 780 people baptized every day in the world!
everyone was amazed.. i broke it to her that there used to be a lot more.
i recall giving a talk and at that time there were around 1200/day.
Compare that to the hundreds of thousands who are born and die every day, and JWs aren't even making a dent. It's a losing battle, and only those who surrender their critical thinking skills could be impressed by such a number.
i did my own extensive research as i was getting out, and by exploring actual changes and mentions of core doctrine, i learned how it came about that the gb teach that only they know the truth and only they get holy spirit.
i was checking if jwfacts had it, and although they mention many older articles, it seems they didn't realize they taught there was no holy spirit.
this was a real big eye opener for me, so thought i'd share it, and curious if any of you knew about this yourselves????.
Interesting that besides hour requirements, pioneers also had return visit and study requirements, a minimum number. It's very telling this doesn't exist today. That just wouldn't work, seeing as much of pioneers time nowadays is made with filler like sitting at carts, driving around, construction or other non-field service that can be counted, etc.
a few years back i was in a meeting between fades and it was the co visit.
he said something i thought was crazy and a lot of jws buy into this mentality.
i don't remember the talk but he asked this question.. what if this isn't the truth?
Yes I've heard that line before about 'even if it isn't the truth', and it probably says a lot about the one saying it. Most JWs have doubts, it's only natural, they just can't say it blatantly or they'll be classified as "weak".
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/09/10/chinese-officials-burn-bibles-close-churches-force-christian-to-denounce-faith-amid-escalating-crackdown.amp.html.
here's another story of christian persecution where the subjects are not jws.
they even have the old trope of being forced to sign a paper renouncing their faith!
Here's another story of Christian persecution where the subjects are NOT JWs. They even have the old trope of being forced to sign a paper renouncing their faith! Might be good to point out to JWs who think they're so special and targeted by Satan.
i had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.
i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.
however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?
Like stuckinarut2 the first stuff I saw was JWs own crazy old publications. About 2010 I got internet for the first time and was just getting used to it. I googled Jehovah's Witnesses out of curiosity and among the first sites I saw were the crazy ones that scream at you with multi colored fonts, all caps, no paragraphs, black backgrounds, pictures of the pyramid and theories about JWs being Satan worshippers. This turned me into a JW defender for a few years, debating with ex-JWs online. It wasn't long before I came across more logical information that I could confirm, and eventually I got to the point where I could no longer defend the religion and actually began to have a hatred for it.